: Quidlibet : › Baptism of Desire = Perfect Charity or Contrition

: Quidlibet : › Baptism of Desire = Perfect Charity or Contrition

Baptism of Desire = Perfect Charity or Contrition

QUESTION: On the subject of baptism of desire and blood, when I question the subject on one traditional website to a priest and say I believe in it, I am told I am in heresy. If I tell a priest on another traditional website that I am against it, he tells me I am in heresy.

I am very serious. I don’t know what to believe any more on the subject. If only I knew the complete truth, I would not doubt it at all. Never in my whole life, have I ever doubted the smallest thing I was taught concerning my faith.

What about the doctrine, “Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation”? I was taught that if fallen-away Catholics did not return to the Church before they died they went to hell; that Protestants, Moslems, Jews, etc. went to hell if they did not come into the Church before they died; that if God wanted a soul to be saved, He sent a “preacher” to him to lead him into the Catholic Church. I was taught of the importance of going out and seeking souls to lead to the truth of the Catholic Church. I am not sure of even this part of my faith I was taught as a child.

The last five popes say that you don’t have to be in the Catholic Church to be saved, that protestants, Jews and others don’t need to be converted before they die, etc.

If what I was taught in regards to this doctrine was false, then I wonder what else I could have been taught as a child was wrong. Maybe I don’t know my Catholic faith at all. Can you understand the dilemma I feel?

I have always accepted everything I was taught as a child about my faith without the least question or doubt, and I could not tolerate those who did not believe without question. I could accept baptism of blood and desire as the truth, if I knew it was really the truth.

RESPONSE: Don’t feel bad if you don’t remember everything you were taught. No one can do that!

Baptism of desire and baptism of blood were indeed taught in the old catechisms. This is one of the indications that a teaching belongs to the universal ordinary magisterium, and hence, Catholics are obliged to adhere to it.

No Catholic theologian teaches that these doctrines contradict the teaching “Outside the Church, no salvation.”

Q: So you are telling me it is correct to believe in baptism of desire and blood and it does not go against the doctrine “outside the Catholic church there is no salvation?

R: That is correct. It does not. The same theologians who teach one doctrine also teach the other.

Q: So those souls such as protestants, Jews, etc. that God does not put in contact with the true Faith go to heaven if they live good lives according to their religion?

Isn’t this one of the heresies Benedict XVI is teaching, saying that the protestants, Jews, etc. do not need to convert to the Catholic faith?

R: You misunderstand. This is not baptism of desire, and that is not what the doctrine means.

Here is an explanation of baptism of desire from the pre-Vatican II theologian, Father Felix Cappello:

“The term baptism of the spirit or of desire [flaminis seu desiderii] means an act of perfect charity or contrition, with at least an implicit wish for the sacrament. ‘For the heart of a man,’ says St. Thomas, ‘is moved by the Holy Ghost to believe and love God, and repent of its sins.’

“Thus, baptism of desire serves to justify a man in place of baptism properly speaking, for (as our treatise On Penance says) outside of the sacrament actually received, perfect contrition is in itself [per se] an immediate disposition for justification…

“… baptism of desire [in voto] takes place when at least the implicit intention to receive it [the sacrament of baptism] is present; this intention is contained in the act of charity or contrition, insofar as it is a general will to fulfill all divine commandments and to employ all means divinely instituted as necessary for salvation.” (Tractatus Canonico-Moralis de Sacramentis, 4th ed. [Rome: 1945] 1:110, 112.)

Baptism of desire, in other words, is equated with perfect charity or perfect contrition.

Q: What happened to the concept that we must go out and convert protestants, Jews, etc. to the Catholic Church, outside of which there is no salvation. In my early years, God sent me to many souls to “preach” to to lead them to the Cathoic Church.

R: Obviously, we’re still obliged to do this.

After all, how many Catholics, still less non-Catholics, have perfect contrition?

So, the missionary apostolate of preaching and converting souls to the one, true faith must ever continue.

At the end of time

We are not given to know the end of time in terms of a hard date. We are assured of that fact by Sacred Scripture, by Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself:

Gospel According to Saint Matthew,  Chapter 24: 36 But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.

Gospel According to Saint Mark, Chapter 13:32 But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father.

The Greek in St. Mark is explicit - it says Christ as the Immortal Son knows with the Father both the day and the hour. What they know, their Holy Spirit Who is the third person of the Blessed Trinity the Holy Spirit the Paraclete, knows. The Holy Triune Omnipotent Omniscient All Holy Lord God, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Holy Holy Holy Lord God Pantocrator, Infinite and All Powerful Creator and Ruler over all that has been created, unrestrained and uncontained by their creation and ubiquitously present throughout all of creation knows all that has ever been and is and will ever be. This knowledge they have perfectly possessed from before all time and creation and have always perfectly possessed and will always perfectly possess.

They are not telling us the day and the hour and have not even told the elect angels nor any of the saints, including the blessed virgin Mary.

It will come on a sudden and there will be no escaping it.

The last book of the bible, the Apocalypse, tells us all the signs that lead up to it. Also included is the entire history of God's creation in types and prophecy.

See: The Apocalypse, the Book of the Revelation

The Final Trial: Traditional Catholic Prayers: Baptism

The Final Trial: Traditional Catholic Prayers: Baptism


Traditional Catholic Prayers: Baptism


MATTHEW 28 

CHAPTER XXVIII.

The resurrection of Christ. His commission to his disciples.

1 And *in the end of the sabbath, when it began to dawn towards the first day of the week,

18 And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. 
19 *Going, therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit; 
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

"Consummation of the world," - the end of this age of grace and the beginning of the eternal ages with Christ reigning visibly. This is the end of the eschaton and the beginning of the eternal recreated heavens and the earth and will begin when Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ returns from heaven in the same flesh He rose with and ascended into the third heaven with, seated at the right hand of the Father. His return will be with all of His elect angels. He will raise and judge all men in the flesh and then recreate the heavens and the earth, which in that state will last that way for eternity. There will NOT be any sin in the new heavens and earth, so prepare now by confessing the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit and be baptized as commanded above and shown how to baptize below and live Holy and Godly lives in sincerity and humility and meekness waiting for the Lord when He returns so that we are not like the five foolish virgins but are like the five wise virgins.

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1: A.D. 30.; Mark xvi. 1.; John xx. 1.
19: Mark xvi. 15.

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Method of Baptism

From the Didache (49 A.D. Council of Jerusalem):

Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism. 

And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize the one to be baptized into Jesus Christ in "the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit," in running water. But if you have no running water, baptize into other water [still water]; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head onto the one to be baptized saying at that time "in the name of Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." But before the baptism, if possible, let the baptizer fast, and the baptized, and whoever else can; but you shall order the baptized [when there is time] to fast one or two days before.

Baptism can and should always be performed immediately when there is danger of death of the one to be baptized. For instance, impending martyrdom or possible death causing illness.


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See this for why Jesus Christ must be confessed as the Holy Word and Son of God: The Final Trial: Mary - revered by both Christians and Muslims as the vessel through whom God made the Word, Jesus Christ, Incarnate

The Muslim feast of Eid only commemorates the typological sacrifice by Abraham of Issac. That prefigured the final and only Supreme Sacrifice of Jesus Christ on His Most Holy Cross. It is only by the Sacrifice of Christ on His Cross that we are saved. Jesus Christ commanded, not suggested, that we be baptized; echoing the rest of the Church Fathers, St. Augustine noted that if someone could not be baptized even though they wanted it and did everything they could to be baptized in the water in name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, then their confession of faith is enough for their salvation. But no where are we allowed to refuse baptism.

All Muslims and everyone who will, are invited and encouraged to come to the water of life now and be baptized in the water and in the Spirit in name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit and receive Communion.

For Noah and Abraham as Prophecies of Baptism in Our Only Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ see:

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Second Prophesy: Genesis 5: 32; 6; 7: 6: 11-14, 18-21, 23-24; 8: 1-3, 6-12, 15-21

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Third Prophesy: Genesis 22: 1-19

There is no evolution, to be baptized in Our Only Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ one must believe in the truth of literal Creation by God and no pantheistic syncretism with deistic design and the rest of pagan evolutionary theory.

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The First Prophesy: Genesis 1: 1-31; 2: 1-2

And see the rest of the Baptismal Prophecies. They are a must.

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Fourth Prophesy: Exodus 14: 24-31; 15: 1

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Fifth Prophesy: Isaias 54: 17; 55: 1-11

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Sixth Prophesy: Baruch 3: 9-38

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Seventh Prophesy: Ezechiel 37: 1-14

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Eighth Prophesy: Isaias 4: 1-6

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Ninth Prophesy: Exodus 1-11

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Tenth Prophesy: Jonas 3: 1-10

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Eleventh Prophesy: Deuteronomy 31: 22-30

Traditional Catholic Prayers: THE TWELVE PROPHECIES - The Twelfth Prophesy: Daniel 3: 1-24

The meaning of the Pasch of Christians.

The Crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ, Mary and John and the women at the foot of the Cross

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour, there was darkness over all the earth, until the ninth hour.

Origen tell us this darkness was only in Palestine, and the neighbouring countries: for as to the words, over the whole earth, or over the whole land, we find one kingdom or empire, by a common way of speaking, called the whole earth, or the whole world. As to the cause of the obscuration of the sun; and secondly, as to the extent of its darkness.  Origen tells us that the darkness was partial, and confined to Judea and the neighbouring countries, as the darkness of Egypt was only perceived in that country, and not in Gessen, where the children of Israel were. Saint Jerome tells us that the obscurity was caused by the rays of the sun being suddenly withdrawn by divine power, as was the case in Egypt. The darkness in Egypt during the Passover of Moses was due to God's protection withdrawn from that land at that time. The darkness when Christ was Crucified for us is the judgement of God upon His Son Jesus Christ, in our place. For Jesus Christ knew NO sin. He never sinned, nor could He ever.

The meaning of the Pasch of Christians.

The Book of Wisdom, Chapter 17, describes the devils and demons thrown back upon the Egyptians when the Israelites under Moses were brought out of Egypt by God for God’s purposes (to prepare a place for the Crucifixion of Our Lord for the Redemption of the whole world of those who are saved). In the same way the same false gods and goddesses that the Egyptians served and which in so doing were the reason the Egyptians sacrificed their sons and daughters to the devils and demons behind the false gods/goddesses were the spirits that killed the Egyptian children that perished when the Israelites were brought out of Egypt. God does not murder children, period. The angel of death which destroyed in Egypt was one of the fallen spirits. God did not cause any of the fallen spirits to hurt anyone. God allowed the fallen spirits to do what it is their nature do to when He brought the Israelites out of the gates of hell which was Egypt. The children below the age of reason that died went to be with God for eternity, they will be resurrected with the just at the Second Coming of Christ. This principle of God allowing the innocent to be afflicted along with guilty finds its ultimate fulfillment in Christ’s singular and only salvific Kenosis. Jesus Christ committed no sin, not ever nor could He, and was and is and only could be utterly and absolutely and completely innocent of any and all wrongdoing and sin by His very nature as the Holy and True God. The guiltless sacrificed by His own will for the guilty. Even when the innocent are afflicted by the actions and evils instigated by the fallen spirits in the world, the innocent are not possessed by those fallen spirits. The principle of all being afflicted by the evil set loose upon the world for its unrepentant sin will occur when the universal plagues are let loose upon the world. See Apocalypse 16 – 

And see: The Plagues will be real - Three Looks at the 16th Chapter of the Book of the Revelation

The principle of our always, for our part, protecting children is given us by Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ in the Gospel of Matthew, Chapter 18

1 At *that hour the disciples came to Jesus, saying: Who, thinkest thou, is the greater in the kingdom of heaven?

2 *And Jesus calling unto him a little child, set him in the midst of them,

3 And said: Amen I say unto you, *unless you be converted, and become as little children, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, he is the greater in the kingdom of heaven.

5 And he that shall receive one such little child in my name, receiveth me.

10 Take heed that you despise not one of these little ones: for I say to you, *that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father who is in heaven.

The principle of our ONLY worshiping the True God, the Father and the Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is given first in the historical truth of the Garden of Eden when Christ, who is the Tree of Life commands the first man and his wife, Adam and Eve to not have anything to do with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil which is Satan, the first fallen angel, nor with any of the fallen angels with Satan. Assisi of Babylon/Vatican/Rome is absolute and complete violation of that principle and is the Great Apostasy in full blown Satanic evil. Have nothing to do with the Vatican or suffer its eternal damnation in hell with it. The devil and demon worshiping pagans and the perfidious deicidal Jews are not ever any part of the Salvific action of Christ upon Golgotha/Calvary. Individual pagans and Jews if they repent of their not confessing Jesus Christ as the Immortal Son of God become flesh for our sake and sacrificed for our salvation and who confess publicly their sin of devil and demon worshiping and perfidy and deicide and who beg the Lord of all, the Lord God, the Father and the Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit for forgiveness of their horrid and abominable sins, can and will be forgiven if they do so now in this life and will enter into the only path of salvation there is as dictated by God Himself. The Church, all the faithful – there is no other meaning acceptable to God for the word Church, is commanded by God to not have anything to do with the Apostasy.

Book of Wisdom, Chapter 17

1 For thy judgments, O Lord, are great, and thy words cannot be expressed: therefore undisciplined souls have erred.

2 For while the wicked thought to be able to have dominion over the holy nation, they themselves being fettered with the bonds of darkness, and a long night, shut up in their houses, lay there exiled from the eternal providence.

3 And while they thought to lie hid in their obscure sins, they were scattered under a dark veil of forgetfulness, being horribly afraid and troubled with exceeding great astonishment.

4 For neither did the den that held them, keep them from fear: for noises coming down troubled them, and sad visions appearing to them, affrighted them.

5 And no power of fire could give them light, neither could the bright flames of the stars enlighten that horrible night.

6 But there appeared to them a sudden fire, very dreadful: and being struck with the fear of that face, which was not seen, they thought the things which they saw to be worse:

7 And the delusions of their magic art were put down, and their boasting of wisdom was reproachfully rebuked.

8 For they who promised to drive away fears and troubles from a sick soul, were sick themselves of a fear worthy to be laughed at.

9 For though no terrible thing disturbed them: yet being scared with the passing by of beasts, and hissing of serpents, they died for fear: and denying that they saw the air, which could by no means be avoided.

10 For whereas wickedness is fearful, it beareth witness of its condemnation: for a troubled conscience always forecasteth grievous things.

11 For fear is nothing else but a yielding up of the succours from thought.

12 And while there is less expectation from within, the greater doth it count the ignorance of that cause which bringeth the torment.

13 But they that during that night, in which nothing could be done, and which came upon them from the lowest and deepest hell, slept the same sleep.

14 Were sometimes molested with the fear of monsters, sometimes fainted away, their soul failing them: for a sudden and unlooked for fear was come upon them.

15 Moreover if any of them had fallen down, he was kept shut up in prison without irons.

16 For if any one were a husbandman, or a shepherd, or a labourer in the field, and was suddenly overtaken, he endured a necessity from which he could not fly.

17 For they were all bound together with one chain of darkness. Whether it were a whistling wind, or the melodious voice of birds, among the spreading branches of trees, or a fall of water running down with violence,

18 Or the mighty noise of stones tumbling down, or the running that could not be seen of beasts playing together, or the roaring voice of wild beasts, or a rebounding echo from the highest mountains: these things made them to swoon for fear.

19 For the whole world was enlightened with a clear light, and none were hindered in their labours.

20 But over them only was spread a heavy night, an image of that darkness which was to come upon them. But they were to themselves more grievous than the darkness.